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no brain's avatar

This has probably lowered significantly since the 1980s, with the radical shifts in cultural & legal responses to SA & pedophilia, the downward trends in sexuality in general, higher living standards & smaller families + smaller family units etc. I would be highly surprised if it had anything like 25% prevalence now bc if it did, shame & taboo would not be able to keep this genie locked in the bottle. It would immediately explode into the public consciousness and we’d be bombarded with constant, highly prominent discussion of incest and familial SA.

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Approved Posture's avatar

In western nuclear families children see their siblings 1 or 2 orders of magnitude more than they see their first cousins. So I’m not sure where all these opportunities for cousin incest arise. And also with nuclear families the modal child today only has two first cousins on each side of the family anyway.

I find the recourse to old, self-reported statistics kind of odd too. One would imagine there is evidence in the several million home DNA kits that have been taken of consanguineous parentage. Although I can imagine 23andme and the like don’t want to highlight this.

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Dave Cat's avatar

Is having gone through incest correlated with proxies for being obsessed with sex ex. bisexuality?

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Sebastian Jensen's avatar

I would assume it is, but there is no data on the matter.

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DeepLeftAnalysis🔸's avatar

My hypothesis is that the frequency of incest is at least somewhat related to the strength of Genetic Sexual Attraction, and therefore to ethnocentrism.

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The Calipers's avatar

Was there any data or discussion of race and ethnicity in the studies you read?

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Joe's avatar
Dec 19Edited

A few years ago, a PhD geneticist named Francisco C. Ceballos stated that when he was studying the prevalence of incest in the UK Biobank, he discovered an immigrant population with a very high prevalence of father-daughter incest:

https://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1770200139707371687

Of course, there is no universal definition of what constitutes incest. In some societies, it's not considered incest for parents to sexually stimulate their children as long as they themselves don't feel sexual desire for them:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605231153894

In the 1990s, an Albanian immigrant to the US named Sam Krasniqi was arrested and charged with child abuse after someone saw him stroke his daughter's vagina and buttocks. He got acquitted after an anthropologist testified at his trial that such behavior is considered normal and non-sexual in his culture:

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/tell-mama-why-you-cry-part-i-6404797

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The Calipers's avatar

Thanks for the info and the journal article. I knew this about the Manchus but was surprised by how widespread it was across such far apart places as Cambodia and Papua New Guinea.

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Eraldo Coil's avatar

Wincest

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