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Blue Vir's avatar

It should be noted that the reason why only 10 embryos are the selection sample is because the women who do IVF tend to be older and have few eggs. Among women around age 20, egg extractions that retrieve 100 embryos are possible.

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Will Martin's avatar

Tech is a pipe dream. All this means is that the Jews will clone Infinity Pajeet-Haitians to kill us all. The shiny tech toys will never be allowed in the hands of the goyim.

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Compsci's avatar

I find the discussion interesting, but without knowing just what a difference a gain of 6 points makes, have a hard time coming to conclusion of value. I assume from discussion the 6 points hypothesized is a shift of the Bell curve to the right of 6 points. So my question is, for a previous hypothesized potential intellect of say dead average (100), is a move to 106 the same benefit as say a move from 115 lot 121? Or 130 to 136? The assumption of an interval scale for IQ—rather than rank order—comes into play. Or perhaps I’m overthinking this…

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Joshua C's avatar

Regression to the mean means that a 130 IQ couple will not have children with 130 IQ on avg, and also means that selecting for intelligence becomes harder as it gets higher. So perhaps they will have kids of avg 120 IQ, and selecting the best of 10 embryos may net them +3-4 IQ.

However, that’s selecting just the best 10 embryos. If you could check 10,000 embryos you could produce a 140 IQ baby from a 100 IQ couple, or a 150 IQ baby from a 130 IQ couple. Also eventually we will get better at identifying genes that matter for intelligence and will be able to select better.

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Compsci's avatar

You’ve not answered the importance of selection for non-gifted persons, which was the essence of my inquiry. Also, selection will not increase IQ forever. At some point the reaction range of the combination of variables selected for will be reached.

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Compsci's avatar

I see we think alike. Thanks for sharing with me.

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Joshua C's avatar

That's a more nuanced question for sure.

On an individual level I think it's more useful to go from average to gifted than gifted to more gifted. For example, being able to do your taxes properly might take around 100 IQ; understanding how much you're paying over the course of a car loan or mortgage might take 105 IQ. Understanding government policies might take 110-115 IQ.

Past a certain point (120?) you are for all respects able to fully understand and discuss any practical matter you care about; sure there are smarter people who can process it quicker or to a higher level, but you can't do your taxes better than perfect.

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TonyZa's avatar

A certain +6 looks better when there is a chance of -10.

But only very few people care enough about IQ to be willing to go through embryo selection. I wouldn't.

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Michael Bailey's avatar

You are an excellent and deserving follow.

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Peter Rabbit's avatar

Congratulations on the orange mark!

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David Brown's avatar

curious about the high extraversion number, I had heard that introverts are more intelligent.

https://themindsjournal.com/are-introverts-intelligent/

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