It would be interesting to know whether men and women have equal career satisfaction in the cognitively demanding fields of physics and engineering, etc. Are the smarter women driven by prestige or is it a genuine interest in "things"?
I am not a social scientist but a physical sciences PhD and I've found this article quite flawed.
OP is comparing average IQ of the EIGHT females against that of the 336 males who study physics.
it's an absolute fact that males like studying physics way more than females.
the males that study physics will include many of the lower and mediocre of the crop compared to the extreme, absolutely top of the crop from the females that study physics.
that just drag the average IQ down for the males.
now, a more fair comparison would be to find out what is the top percentage of the EIGHT females that study physics compared to normal female population, then compare that against the same top percentage of the general males population that also study physics.
I'm pretty sure you'll find the average IQ of that male population much much higher, my guesstimate is 135+ IQ or so.
I mean, you can check the rest of the categories if you want. There is a very clear difference in the lower tier majors, where the women are smarter than the men on average.
I'm still not clear on this--how can women be considerably overrepresented in low-IQ majors without being low-IQ themselves (when there is potentially only a small overall male advantage in IQ)?
Because male preferences do not look just like female preferences? As an analogy, how many women of similar attractiveness etc. of Arnold Schwarzenegger would mate with someone that looks like Patty Baena (Arnold's baby mama)? Barring large sums of money or certain exogenous chemicals entering the equation, few I reckon. In the same way the things that drive women's choice in major have significant differences with those that drive that of men. Perhaps high-IQ fields lack the same level of appeal to women as men.
Significantly more women in college is a relatively recent phenomenon, but I believe women have always preferred the same majors, haven't they? Were today's low-IQ majors not low-IQ in the past when there were fewer women?
I guess it all depends on how big the low-IQ major pool of students is. If it is a relatively small pool, then most women could also be over-represented in the (larger?) average IQ majors and mathematically it would balance out.
you should consider the microcultures which shapes all this mess. people tend to choose disciplines and study accordingly unfer the very effect of their surroundings, belonged microcultures
One interesting question I long ago noticed on these charts is why is math such a sharp deviation for women?
If left to guess many would say medicine, I suspect.
This is data from the 70s, so it might not be indicative of what women want to do now, though I can't say for certain.
Has it ever occurred to you that men are slightly more intelligent than women in terms of standard deviation?
That's why they're over-represented in disciplines that require a high level of cognitive ability.??
Men are over-represented in highly cognitively demanding fields because they have a higher standard deviation...
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It would be interesting to know whether men and women have equal career satisfaction in the cognitively demanding fields of physics and engineering, etc. Are the smarter women driven by prestige or is it a genuine interest in "things"?
In higher-IQ mayors, are men more intelligent than women?
Hello, what do you think of Sasha Gusev ?
Hello, what do you think of Sasha Gusev ?
Talented but wrong.
Do you have an article that refute one of his claims ? Except Kirkegaard one.
Thanks
I am not a social scientist but a physical sciences PhD and I've found this article quite flawed.
OP is comparing average IQ of the EIGHT females against that of the 336 males who study physics.
it's an absolute fact that males like studying physics way more than females.
the males that study physics will include many of the lower and mediocre of the crop compared to the extreme, absolutely top of the crop from the females that study physics.
that just drag the average IQ down for the males.
now, a more fair comparison would be to find out what is the top percentage of the EIGHT females that study physics compared to normal female population, then compare that against the same top percentage of the general males population that also study physics.
I'm pretty sure you'll find the average IQ of that male population much much higher, my guesstimate is 135+ IQ or so.
I mean, you can check the rest of the categories if you want. There is a very clear difference in the lower tier majors, where the women are smarter than the men on average.
Interesting, appreciate your attempt to prove your point.
I'm still not clear on this--how can women be considerably overrepresented in low-IQ majors without being low-IQ themselves (when there is potentially only a small overall male advantage in IQ)?
Because male preferences do not look just like female preferences? As an analogy, how many women of similar attractiveness etc. of Arnold Schwarzenegger would mate with someone that looks like Patty Baena (Arnold's baby mama)? Barring large sums of money or certain exogenous chemicals entering the equation, few I reckon. In the same way the things that drive women's choice in major have significant differences with those that drive that of men. Perhaps high-IQ fields lack the same level of appeal to women as men.
Because more women go to college, a lot more in fact.
Significantly more women in college is a relatively recent phenomenon, but I believe women have always preferred the same majors, haven't they? Were today's low-IQ majors not low-IQ in the past when there were fewer women?
I guess it all depends on how big the low-IQ major pool of students is. If it is a relatively small pool, then most women could also be over-represented in the (larger?) average IQ majors and mathematically it would balance out.
you should consider the microcultures which shapes all this mess. people tend to choose disciplines and study accordingly unfer the very effect of their surroundings, belonged microcultures